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    • #1820
      Brian Lennon

      A big problem in setting a cost of membership is that what is an hour’s salary in one country is quite literally a month’s salary in another. I like to think we choose to be international and we choose to be fair.

      One idea I have had is that we use as a reference point the cost of a 30-hour course (e.g., Basic Week) in a specific area. This would be a fair reference point for comparing economies. We could specify that WGI ordinary membership would be equivalent to 5% of this figure, faculty membership to 15%.

      For Example: In Ireland a 30-hour course costs about €400.
      Ordinary WGI membership would then be €20
      Faculty WGI membership would be €60

      There is a similar international issue about the dues forwarded to WGI for course admin. Course dues (and I use the word to distinguish from “fees” the actual cost of a course) could be based on the actual amount charged for the course (and not the recommended rate). So if a person gave a course for free, there would be no dues!

      In the Irish example of a course costing €400 per person:
      Dues to local body: €40 per person
      Dues to WGI: €20 per person

      People might want to change the percentages I mention but it’s the overall idea that I think is more important, a way to be fair to everyone. I would favour even lower percentages but I do like the idea of using the local 30-hour rate as a reference.

      CT would never have taken off in Ireland had not Bill Glasser operated a very generous sliding scale. If our vision is to spread CT then I think we will follow his example. Those who wish to earn as much as possible by teaching CT only need to target the wealthier areas; in other words they slide up the scale!!

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      Avatar photoKim Olver

      Brian, I like this idea AND how do we “trust” that affiliates are sending in the proper percentages? I trust 90% of our affiliates but I’m not sure about the rest. I like the idea of people paying for a WGI course through WGI’s shopping cart system. This way we can keep track of the percentages and set up the affiliates and instructors to get their percentages. Shopping cart will do that for us. Then we would have people’s information from the beginning and only those people who paid through our system would get an official numbered certificate from WGI. I believe this could help affiliates in the sense that they would no longer need to collect fees or issue certificates. It could all be done centrally. Trust would not be an issue the other way because every time someone registers through shopping cart, the proper affiliate would get an email about the sale.

    • #1822
      Brian Lennon

      I had thought of the trust issue. My guess is that this is more a problem with individual faculty than with affiliates. Someone could tell us they charged $100 for a course where they actually charged $500 (so as to send us a smaller amount in dues)!

      If we have an online certificate verification scheme, that will offset any malpractice out there. When a person enters their cert number, they should see (1) that it exists, (2) that it corresponds to the course they received and (3) if the cost of the course is published it will help cover situations where the cost quoted to us was different.

      I have been working on a database for WGI-Ireland (WGII) and have an approach for the cert numbers.

      Coming back to the membership issue, I would suggest a figure of 2.5% rather than the 5% I mentioned in my last post. I believe that figure would be acceptable to members directly and to affiliates. If membership were collected via affiliates they would send the 2.5% (of the reference figure, locally recommended cost of a 30-hour course) to WGI together with a list of the members’ emails. Masaki has already shown that such figures are possible and I’m sure other affiliates would think the same.

    • #1843
      Avatar photoBette Blance

      I also like that idea Brian. I think that is fair and will align with what is affordable for people in a country. The online certificate seems like a good idea as well.

    • #1944
      Nancy Herrick

      Each country knows their economy and what the average income is for their population. I think we could find an international website that would provide information about what is a fair and equitable fee for training and also for dues to professional organizations in each country. Then instead of our board trying to set these fees, we could use a sliding scale appropriate to each country and set our fees accordingly.

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